Miami Region, Fifth Round: (1) Hulk Hogan vs. (3) John Cena | Page 2

What's the matter, not smart enough to think of your own insult here?

Ahh yes, the ridiculous "only half the people cheer him as babyface" argument. How many times do I have to say it? Regardless of whether people cheer or people boo, they still CARE. They are still paying money to come see the show. That's all that matters. Cena's matches are white hot, and have been since he entered the main-event. The only "half cheer" argument is a load of garbage and you know it. I'm disappointed you even tried it.

The television world is much different today than it was back then. Not only does John Cena show up every week for free, unlike Hogan who only had to work a couple of televised dates a year, the WWE is facing big time competition from numerous other television shows and PPVs. It's not like it was back in the 80s, when people had 10 channels. There are hundreds upon hundreds of television channels today, boxing PPVs, UFC PPVs, etc. The competition is so much greater than it was in Hogan's time.

Throw in the fact that seeing Hogan was a rare treat, which only happened on those very few occasions he was on national TV or happened to be working a show near you, and I think John Cena's drawing power is very near what Hogan had.

Wasn't it Vince McMahon himself who said Austin made more money in each of those three years than anyone else had in history in comparable time period?

And as far as Flair goes, when you say "flop", what you REALLY mean is mega over and respected every time he got on TV, even though his tits were saggier than your grandmother's.

I'm sorry, but I could have sworn you just tried to credit Austin's immense drawing power to Hogan. Let me guess, if it hadn't been for Hogan, Floyd Mayweather wouldn't draw either. And how about Georges St. Pierre, should he bow in homage to Hogan as well?

What the fuck are you talking about?

The fans who are in the building? The ones who paid for their ticket but might not next time?

Horseshit argument, you have to decide one or the other, you don't get to go both ways. That's KB's department.

Well sure it is. If the Internet had existed back in Hogan's day, do you think people would still have wanted to drop money on a douchebag? If they knew "say your prayers and take your vitamins" was in actuality "do a lot of coke and steroids and when your friends are hospitalized, blame God", do you think people would still have wanted to spend their money on him? Of course not.

Families don't want their children's heroes to be drugged out assholes. They are not going to pay money for a bad influence. If the Internet had existed back then the way it does now, Hogan wouldn't be NEARLY the draw he was, he wouldn't have won as many matches, and this match wouldn't even be a debate.

Then again, I don't see how it's much of a debate now, considering everything which works to Cena's advantage.

Yes, which is why I'm qualified to say that.

Oooh, a guy who lost a fight with his T-shirt, a guy who has repeatedly lost to anyone with a seat at the main-event table, and three guys way past their primes. You really did sure show me!

You mean other than the fact Cena is the better in-ring worker, better on the mic, works a much more demanding schedule and is way more exposed than Hogan and is still the top dog?

Besides that?

I'm confused. How does Hogan losing to Yokozuna, just so Yokozuna can lose to Hart, help Bret Hart? And what benefit did Hogan have going over Orton? I'd love to hear.

A good worker? Maybe. Better than Cena? Definitely not. And let's not even get into promo ability, Cena whips Hogan's ass by a mile. And, as I've pointed out earlier in this post, I'm not so sure that, taking into account the different circumstances, Hogan is that much bigger of a draw.

Actually, I imagine his thinking was, "Well, we have these fans here tonight, how do we keep them for tomorrow?". I'm not certain a mediocre match was the way to do it. As evidenced by the fact that Wrestlemania 3 was the peak of the WWF in the 80s.

Yes, that's what I'm telling you. Until they are in the Hall of Fame, they did not have Hall of Fame caliber careers. Perhaps we should bring back that 4 year old to explain it to you.

It is quite a long ways from pinning Hogan's shoulder to spitting on his boots, but I'm sure most of us would be more than capable of spitting on Hogan.

Unless you possess the capability of reasonable and rational thought. Then it's obviously John Cena for the victory. That's okay though, we'll forgive you this time.

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